Anonymous asked: (Pt1) RPS isn't my cup of tea, but in defense of cockles shippers, from what I've seen they don't so much erase the wives as the wives just aren't their focus. Which is understandable, they are cockles shippers, after all. The majority of them seem to pretend/believe that Jensen and Misha are in fact very much in love with their wives, just in love with each other, too. Polyamory, I guess. Some of them do also ship Vicki and Danneel together to some extent as well. *shrugs* (tbc)
(Pt2) As to your other point, there are varied reason as to why women write and read slash. If it helps, most (fan-run) studies have proven that the majority of people who write and read slash fanfic aren’t hetero women. But there are definitely notes of sexism in all of this, imo, mostly in that the most well developed characters in media are male. So that’s what fanfic writers have to work with. To oddlyenoughno, if you prefer het romance, that’s fine. There’s a lot to choose from in media…
(Pt3) But fanfic mostly seems to try to capture what most tv and books aren’t providing by using characters from these things. Unless you mean femslash, in which case I agree that there is a sad lack of female romance in media and fanfiction. But again, that partly comes from the fact that there aren’t a lot of really well developed female characters in media.
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed message. I appreciate your willingness to talk about this situation, because I really do think we need to talk about it more.
I do enjoy reading slash. In the context of the Supernatural fandom, though, the problem goes beyond that. It’s true that the most well-developed characters are male, but that is in part because Supernatural fans hated the female characters and petitioned to keep them off the show while they did the opposite for the male characters. Misha was only hired to be in 6 episodes; they kept him on in part because he was popular, and he was popular in part because he’s a guy. Genevieve Padalecki,Traci Dinwiddie, and Julia Niven were guest stars on the show at that time, as were Samantha Ferris and Alona Tal from previous seasons, and fans hated everyone except Samantha Ferris’s character because she wasn’t considered a threat to the boys romantically. All of those female characters were killed off and not brought back, while Castiel has stuck around. When he was killed off, fans protested until he was brought back.
This isn’t a fringe theory; in an interview with Channel Ten in 2009, Misha said that his success with the fandom was because he was male. In other interviews, the people who make the show have talked about their perception that the fans hate female characters.
I personally know many Supernatural fans who are bothered by the sexism on the show and the fandom and want to change it; but their voices seem to be drowned out. (Same for the fans who want more diversity or at least some more black characters who aren’t villains.)
As a queer woman, I think it’s great that the fandom is so open and supportive of QUILTBAG rights. But, as a queer woman, I find it frustrating that so many of them don’t care about sexism.