(If you don’t know what this is referring to, read these posts in order: “Ty Olsson Gets Too Cute and Cuddly at Vegas Supernatural Convention,” “Supernatural’s Ty Olsson lost a fan and here’s why,” and “Ty Olsson Official Response.”)
I thought I’d go ahead and release a preliminary report on the Ty situation. I’ve interviewed several people and saved lots of first-hand accounts and other evidence like photos and videos. I’m still in the process of sorting through them and securing permission to link to or use them. This might take a while.
However, I can tell you what I’ve found out in general.
Yes,some fans are saying that Ty Olsson kissed them on the mouth without their consent. Some said that he licked and/or touched them (in a sexual manner and otherwise) without their consent. These fans reported significant negative emotional fallout. Other fans said that Ty kissed and/or touched them with their consent. Some fans said that the consensual kissing and his flirtatious behavior was a very enjoyable positive experience and the highlight of the con; others said that they consented but later regretted their actions and reported it as a very negative experience.
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Anonymous asked: U really have a hatred towards Jensens pool, don't you
I’m not apologizing for that. Jensen’s pool tried to kill West.
Anonymous asked: Hi could you answer that ask about charity? I would really like to know your thoughts on that
Ha! Do you mean this anonymous question I got?
"Since we are talking about money.. I hare how celebrities ask their fans to donate to charity. You are the one with money.."
Sure, I’ll answer it, but pro-tip: if you really want an answer, log in instead if asking on anon. I’m much more likely to answer privately.
My thoughts are that I’d much rather that money goes to charity instead of to Jensen Ackles’ pool. I don’t think that the motive for giving really matters; if it’s a good cause, then it’s still doing good.
Humans aren’t good at caring about or understanding a problem unless it’s affecting them or their friends/family. I think it’s an evolutionary drive to protect your group/tribe first and ignore outsiders. But celebrities, even though we don’t really know them, still seem like our friends. So when they make a personal appeal for a cause, it really helps people start to care about something.
I honestly think that Misha’s charity work has done an incredible amount of good in the world. It’s not so much what he’s done himself or things that Random Acts has done; he’s using his celebrity platform to teach fans how to care about things like homelessness and poverty. When he basically uses his presence as a bribe to get people to show up at Skid Row and hand out things, the big impact isn’t just the little bit of kindness that the people in need received; it’s also all the fans who actually went out and spoke to homeless people and walked around with them and interacted with them. They’re learning to think about homelessness not as an abstraction but as something that affects real people that they’ve met and talked to.
So I don’t have a problem with celebrities asking for donations. I do have a problem when these donations are misused or squandered, which has happened. I think it’s a much better idea to donate to a charity in honor of a celebrity instead of giving them gifts directly. I don’t, however, understand why some people give celebs credit for something their fans did. And I don’t like it when actors use their fans’ generosity to make themselves look good.
Anonymous asked: We don't have swear jars in Germany, which could be the reason for the misunderstanding. And yes, Ty and Rick were drinking real alcohol during their panels. On the last day one of the attendees even brought them a whole bag full of different kinds of alcohol, sth I didn't like very much, but one of the staff took it away from them in the middle of the panel. So, they basically got their drinks from the fans as a 'joke'!
Well, the idea is that having to pay a small amount of money every time you swear will help you break the habit. It’s supposed to be a mild punishment. It’s negative reinforcement - no wait, that’s probably not the right term. A labeled jar, like a mason jar, holds the money. Once the jar is full, it goes to pay for a treat for the whole family or it gets donated to charity or something.
Both adults and kids use swear jars. (In “The New Girl,” one of the characters has to put a twenty in the “Douchebag Jar” if he says something particularly insensitive.) I think it’s mostly associated with parents trying to teach (or model) good habits to their kids. The problem is that some clever kids don’t see paying the money as a punishment but a transaction. So they figure that they can buy the right to curse without getting into trouble. The kids that think this way go on to be successful adults.
I’ve seen pictures of Rick Worthy and Ty trying to drink straight from this beer keg on stage. I know that they play it up for the crowd, but I’m pretty sure that they were still drinking at least a little. I’m confused as to how the cons can have a no alcohol policy for their guests when it’s so flagrantly violated.
Anonymous asked: Hi, I was also at the Aecon in Germany last year and as far as I remember didn't Ty give the boy money to buy drinks, but as a kind if swear jar. But he gave to young women money for rum & coke or beer. He and Rick Worthy were indeed very drunk, but they didn't act inappropriate as far as I know.
Oh yeah, that makes sense. I could see how someone could misunderstand what Ty was doing, especially if they’re ESL speakers (likely, in Germany) and Ty gave money to three different people for two different reasons. And Ty did the swear jar thing in Vegas as well. (Do you guys have swear jars in Germany?) A simple misunderstanding!
Were he and Rick Worthy actually drinking actual alcohol during the panel? Do the actors do this at Rogue Event cons?
From video I’ve seen of JIBcon (which isn’t Rogue Events but run by a different org, I think), it seems like the whiskey that Jensen was drinking during one panel was actually whiskey. He didn’t seem drunk, but he did seem to get increasingly relaxed and less inhibited as the panel went on, as well as goofier, like he had a slight buzz going.
Anonymous asked: But under what circumstance would anyone have a reason to justly criticize Misha? That boggles my mind, because I don't think I've seen or heard of him doing anything bad.
He makes mistakes just as much as anybody else, but it’s difficult to criticize him for anything because he is quick to poke fun at himself for it.
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Anonymous asked: I see Jared Padalecki and Ty Olsson and stuff get hate on the Internet and I was just wondering does anyone ever hate Misha. To me it seems like he is loved by everyone and that makes me Happppppy because he's such a nice genuine person :) :) yay Misha!
I hate to break it to you, but everyone gets hate on the Internet.
Nobody is universally popular, and a lot of mean people use the Internet. Trolls can target anyone for any reason. I once read about a group of trolls who started sending hate messages to the Youtube account of the mom of a 7-year-old with a terminal condition.
Getting attacked doesn’t necessarily mean that you deserve it. Sometimes it says a lot more about the person doing the attacking than it does about you.
However, sometimes it’s not mindless hate. Sometimes it’s criticism. Sometimes it’s criticism that you really need to hear.
Jared Padalecki, Ty Olsson, and Misha have all be unjustly attacked by people on the Internet, but they’ve also been justly criticized, and it’s important to learn how to tell the difference. Everyone needs someone to yell at them when they really screw up.